ok guys, something in this community needs to change, and it must happen now!

Ok, so how do i get started today. So i was browsing arround the net, and on some point i got stuck to audiogames.net again. I knew about the descending off the community before. But then i found this:

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/40894/a-new-fps-coming-soon-infinite-warfare/

At first it seamed like nothing wrong. I saw a developer announcing his new game infinite warfare, and already providing his readme. It looked good at fine before i started reading deeper. I hope i don’t need to tell you what all aobout this topic is wrong. People are just randomly acusing this game to be a clone, or framing the developer for his age. And this is a problem that our community has since ages, and which is probably even one of the main causes for the cloning problem, and why we get less and less games. Imargine you where a new developer and wanted to develope for the audiogaming community, maybe because you are blind too. So you research about a community with which you can provide your game. And the first thing you see is a topic like this one, or countless other ones. At this point, it’s just not understanding of basic common sense. If an idea is been used or reproduced in a better way, or a menu looks similar, that does not at all have to mean its the same codbase. It happens in mainstream communities quite a bit. Just because a developer has not hit the magic 18 number doesn’t mean he is a bad developer, uncapable of handling a game or, as referenced in this particular topic, power hungry. This is a problem that probably holds a lot of devs back from joining. It is also the reason why i took a break from game development for 2 years. And this makes the cloners show off more, because they are most often noticed, because unless vgstorm or nyanchan or some few others, there is not much happening anymore. I did not count long standing titles as stw, of course they are still going, but nothing new has been seen from sam since 2 years, in fact, he left the entire forum due to behaving like this or in even more aggressive forms. Please bring this article forward so maybe some day people realizes what damage they do not only to a developer and his reputation, but the entire community with this behaving.

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By simter

A wise man named ironcross32 once said that i was a dangerous person.

82 comments

  1. Yup, it sure is a clone. I agree with your point that we shouldn’t jump straight to it, which I didn’t. I jumped straight to concept clone, which no one denied, then did the source code digging.

  2. Well actually it seam like turret spoke the truth once in her live. So yeah, this is a clone. I have given them a fair chance though to make it not a clone. Look at the server message to find out.

  3. If it’s easily explainable, explain it. In order for it to be original source and use the key, they would’ve had to copy it from Redspot.

  4. more prove then client names that literarely every game uses and a non changed encryption key which is easy explainable.

  5. Yup, I do. And I also know what math an FPS needs. Granted they’re using Sam’s rotation class, which is so broke that east is actually like 98 degrees, west is 272, etc, and I could literally rewrite most of it in like 5 lines of python. But if they actually did an FPS propperly, bullets take math, physics, obviously, does, but they didn’t. It’s base off stolen code.

  6. Jaidon, is that you? That bumper car thing is so wrong and especially you, turret, a person that actually codes should know what mathematics it involves to make such a game.

  7. Like I said in my post, spawn_player and welcome aren’t really enough proof, but I have more packets if they ask, and the key gave it away. Oh yeah, it used to be a clone, and now isn’t, but we totally just, ya know, kept the same key .Oh and also we couldn’t code a bumper cars game but coded an FPS.

  8. and another thing for you. The key is same because it used to be an rs clone but it no longer is, and the spawn_player line is a typical one, even sbp used it. Is sbp an up clone now?

  9. against me? Well where, in agnet? I could not care less to be honest. I said it before agnet must die it ony hurts the community by deviding it.

  10. Simter,
    Firstly, I’m a girl. Thanks for noticing.
    Second, you better hope you’re right, because I just posted major, major evidence against you. You enjoy now.

  11. At this point, as small as it is we have more evidence in favour of it being a clone. Your lot hasn’t given any evidence that it isn’t.

  12. lol they did apparently change all that stuff as far as i’m aware. oh and btw, the topic on the forum got reopened for now.

  13. Yeah, me. What’s the key? _’_clickclick! the same as Redspot. What do we get when we log in? spawn_plater x y z mapname name, followed by computer ID, path…

  14. Yeah, someone didsome tests and alot of the packets were exactly identical to redspot, even using the redspot encryption key.

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